Episode 153: Listener Q&A #30

What would Charlotte Mason say about children coming into the feast late or mid-year, when children refuse to cooperate, or how to get them to be more independent in their school lessons? This month’s Q&A addresses these questions from listeners.

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“They are careful to form habits upon which the routine of life runs easily, and, when the exceptional event requires a new regulation, they may make casual mention of their reasons for having so and so done; or, if this is not convenient and the case is a trying one, they give the children the reason for all obedience––”for this is right.” In a word, authority avoids, so far as may be, giving cause of offence.” (3/22)

Expect Obedience.––The mother has no more sacred duty than that of training her infant to instant obedience.” (1/162)

“The work not done in its own time should be left undone. Children should not be embarrassed
with arrears, and they should have due sense of the importance of time, and that there is no other time for work not done in its own time.” (From “Suggestions” accompanying Programme 42)

In Memoriam: Charlotte Mason

Our Island Story, H.E. Marshall

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Charlotte Mason Soiree Conference

Episode 121: Growing Up with CM and Dyslexia–Mitchell Williams

Episode 83: Form IB Recap

Episode 84: Form IA Recap

Episode 85: Form IIB Recap

Episode 86: Form IIA Recap

Episode 87: Form III Recap

Episode 88: Forms IV-VI Recap

Episode 30: The Way of the Will and The Way of Reason

Episode 115: Authority and Docility, Part I

Episode 116: Authority and Docility, Part II

Table of Contents for Q&A Episodes (and Topical Index too!)

Episode 152: Charlotte Mason in Our Homes, Cheryl Torku

This podcast episode of Charlotte Mason in Our Homes features an interview with a mother of six children. Listen to her open and honest tale of how she decided upon a Charlotte Mason education, manages lessons with children in three forms, and some of the encouraging results she has discovered already in only her second year of teaching with this living education.

 

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{Cheryl and her beautiful family}

For the Children’s Sake, Macaulay

Charlotte Mason’s Home Education Series

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ADE’s Consulting Services

Charlotte Mason Digital Collection

Episode 151: Mapping

Charlotte Mason thought geography a vital subject in the feast, but where do maps fit into the lessons and what are the most effective ways to use them? Emily unpacks her most recent research and dispels some popular myths about map work.

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“Geography should be learnt chiefly from maps. Pictorial readings and talks introduce him to the subject, but so soon as his geography lessons become definite they are to be learnt, in the first place, from the map. This is an important principle to bear in mind. The child who gets no ideas from considering the map, say of Italy or of Russia, has no knowledge of geography, however many facts about places he may be able to produce. Therefore, he should begin this study by learning the meaning of a map and how to use it. he must learn to draw a plan of his schoolroom, etc., according to scale, go on to the plan of a field, consider how to make the plan of his town, and be carried gradually from the idea of a plan to that of a map; always beginning with the notion of an explorer who finds the land and measures it, and by means of the sun and stars, is able to record just where it is on the earth’s surface, east or west, north or south.” (1/278)

Ambleside Geography Book 2, Charlotte Mason

Ambleside Geography Book 3, Charlotte Mason

Ambleside Geography Book 4, Charlotte Mason

Ambleside Geography Book 5, Charlotte Mason

Map Making with Children, Sobol

Rand McNally Atlas of World History, R. R. Palmer

Student Atlases: These are the most inexpensive option but have severe limitations. Their price makes them useful in purchasing the most up-to-date information.

Middle-Level Atlases: These are a step up from student atlases and these in particular are good because they include more details of non-US countries rather than simply continents

Comprehensive Atlases: These are beautiful, and large, and robust. 

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Episode 146: Physical Geography

Physical Geography in the Early Years through Form I

Episode 18: Geography 2.0

Geography Overview PDF

The Book of Centuries and How to Keep One, Mrs. Bernau (Parents’ Review, Vol. 39, pp. 224-235)

Episode 18: Geography (2.0)

The scope of the subject of geography matches the size of the world it covers and Charlotte Mason’s approach to this subject is likewise vast and multifaceted. This podcast episode discusses the purpose of geography study, the variety of resources used for learning, and gives a broad overview of the progression throughout forms I to VI.

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“Geography is, to my mind, a subject of high educational value; though not because it affords the means of scientific training. Geography does present its problems, and these of the most interesting, and does afford materials for classification; but it is physical geography only which falls within the definition of a science, and even that is rather a compendium of the results of several sciences than a science itself. But the peculiar value of geography lies in its fitness to nourish the mind with ideas, and to furnish the imagination with pictures. Herein lies the educational value of geography.” (1/271-72)

“[G]ive him…intimate knowledge, with the fullest details, of any country or region of the world, any county or district of his own country. It is not necessary that he should learn at this stage what is called the ‘geography’ of the countries of Europe, the continents of the world–mere strings of names for the most part: he may learn these, but it is tolerably certain that he will not remember them. But let him be at home in any single region; let him see, with the mind’s eye, the people at their work and at their play, the flowers and fruits in their seasons, the beasts each in its habitat; and let him see all sympathetically, that is let him follow the adventures of a traveler; and he knows more, is better furnished with ideas, than if he had learnt all the names on all the maps.” (1/274-75)

Ambleside Geography Book I, Charlotte Mason (in print here)

Ambleside Geography Book 2, Charlotte Mason

Ambleside Geography Book 3, Charlotte Mason

Ambleside Geography Book 4, Charlotte Mason

Ambleside Geography Book 5, Charlotte Mason

The World at Home, Kirby

Our Country and Its People, Monroe & Buckbee (online here)

Geikie’s Physical Geography (online here)

Physiography, Huxley

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Charlotte Mason Soiree Conference

Episode 146: Physical Geography

Geography Overview PDF

The Uses of Books in Geography, C.N. Heath (Parents’ Review 14, no. 12, pp. 930-36)

Philips Pocket Surveyor

Episode 151: Mapping

Episode 150: Leisure Reading

Living ideas flow from the living books Charlotte Mason assigned for school lessons and life lessons. This episode examines the purpose for the selection of literature for those after-school hours, and how to encourage this life-giving reading habit.

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“People are naturally divided into those who read and think and those who do not read or think; and the business of schools is to see that all their scholars shall belong to the former class; it is worth while to remember that thinking is inseparable from reading which is concerned with the content of a passage and not merely with the printed matter.” (6/31)

“From one to two hours, according to age and [form], are given in the afternoons to handicrafts, field-work, drawing, etc.; and the evenings are absolutely free, so that the children have leisure for hobbies, family reading, and the like.” (From “Suggestions” accompanying Programme 42)

“The evening reading is not task work. It is not important that many books should be read; but it is important that only good books should be read; and read with such ease and pleasant leisure, so that they become to the hearers so much mental property for life…One other point: it is hopeless and unnecessary to attempt to keep up with current literature. Hereafter, it may be necessary to make some struggle to keep abreast of the new books as they pour from the press; but let some of the leisure of youth be spent upon ‘standard’ authors, that have lived through, at least, twenty years of praise and blame.” (5/223)

“The evening readings should be entertaining, and not of a kind to demand severe mental effort; but the long holidays are too long for mere intellectual dawdling. Every Christmas and summer vacation should be marked by the family reading of some great work of literary renown, whether of history, or purely of belles lettres. The daily reading and discussion of one such work will give meaning and coherence to the history ‘grind’ of the school, will keep up a state of mental activity and will add zest to the general play and leisure of the holidays…Far better would it be that the young people should seek out their own pastures, the parents doing no more than keep a judicious eye upon their rovings. But the fact is young people are so taken up with living, that, as a rule, they do NOT read nowadays; and it is possible that a course of spoon-meat may help them over an era of feeble digestive powers, and put them in the way of finding their proper intellectual nourishment.” (5/227)

“The P.U.S. time-tables are arranged for Home Schoolrooms for the hours of morning school only. [The lighter portions of the Literature (novel, play and poems), are read for amusement in the evenings and also in the holidays. Music, Handicrafts, Field-Work, Drawing, Nature Note Books, Century Books, are taken in the afternoons.] Elementary Schools will therefore have a wide margin for other necessary work. It is desirable that children should buy their own copies of Scott, for example, or Shakespeare–whatever may be set for reading and recitations–so that these may be read at home as well as school.” (Public Elementary Schools, PNEU Pamplet, see below)

“To attempt a list of books suitable for the family lecture would be as hopeless as it is unnecessary; but it is possible to discuss the principles on which the selection should be made. In the first place, to get information is not the object of the family reading, but to make the young people acquainted with the flavour of, to give them a taste for a real “book“––that is, roughly speaking, a work of so much literary merit, that it should be read and valued for the sake of that alone, whatever its subject-matter.

“This rule makes a clean sweep of the literature to be found in nine houses out of ten––twaddling story-books, funny or “good”; worthless novels; second-rate writing, whether in works of history or of general literature; compendiums, abstracts, short sketches of great lives, useful information in whatever form. None of these should be admitted to the evening lecture, and, indeed, the less they are read at all, the better. A good encyclopaedia is an invaluable storehouse of facts, and should be made use of to elucidate every difficulty that occurs in general reading; and information got in this way, at the moment it is wanted, is remembered but it is a mistake to read for information only.

“Next, the book must be as interesting, amusing, or pathetic, as may be, but not too profound; the young people have been grinding all day, and now they want relaxation. One is sorry for girls and boys who do not hear the Waverley Novels read at home; nothing afterwards can make up for the delight of growing up in the company of Peveril of the Peak, Meg Merrilees, Jonathan Oldbuck, the Master of Ravenswood, Caleb Baiderstone, and the rest; and every page is a training in righteous living and gentlemanlike feeling. But novels are not the only resource; well-written books of travel are always charming; and, better than anything, good biographies of interesting people; not any of the single-volume series of “Eminent” persons, but a big two-volume book that gives you time to become at home with your man.

“Important historical works had better be reserved for the holiday, but historical and literary essays by men of letters afford very delightful reading.” (5/222-23)

Children of the New Forest, Marryat

With Clive in India, Henty

The Little Duke, Yonge

Hereward the Wake, Kingsley

The Prince and the Page, Yonge

Tom Brown’s School Days, Hughes

Water-Babies, Kingsley

Lorna Doone, Blackmore

Harold, Lytton

Westward Ho! Kingsley

The Faerie Queene, Spenser

Paradise Lost, Milton

Utopia, More

Little House Books, Wilder

Little Britches Books, Moody

The Hobbit, Tolkien

Ourselves (Volume 4), Charlotte Mason

Waverley, Scott

Harry Potter books, Rowling

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, Smith

To Kill a Mockingbird, Lee

George Muller

Gladys Aylward

The Chronicles of Narnia, Lewis (yes, they should be read in publication order)

Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Tolkien

Meindert de Jong

Hilda van Stockum

Heidi, Spyri

Treasure Island and Kidnapped, Stevenson

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Maestro Classics (Use Coupon Code “PODCAST” for 17% off Sale Price)

Episode 103: Sunday Reading

PNEU Pamphlet: Public Elementary Schools